tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15644559.post2509657970271037062..comments2024-03-21T03:55:51.565-07:00Comments on Omniorthogonal: What Did You Do In The Gender Wars, Moppa?mtravenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02356162954308418556noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15644559.post-62162568472144845862017-08-13T09:50:54.720-07:002017-08-13T09:50:54.720-07:00Koch brothers? That old saw? Oh man you've jum...Koch brothers? That old saw? Oh man you've jumped the shark. Dainhttp://dryhyphenolympics.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15644559.post-56024744101478960292017-08-12T09:10:40.102-07:002017-08-12T09:10:40.102-07:00The "rationalist" community may be obses...The "rationalist" community may be obsessed with uncovering biases, that doesn't mean they necessarily do a good job of if. Overcoming Bias, in particular, is crawling with biases that <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2011/04/child-labor-hypocrisy.html#comment-518326817" rel="nofollow">are conveniently in line with those of the Koch brothers</a> who fund it. mtravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356162954308418556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15644559.post-21895920573080369552017-08-11T11:09:07.582-07:002017-08-11T11:09:07.582-07:00"This is not a particularly original or sophi..."This is not a particularly original or sophisticated insight, it's basically Critical Theory 101."<br /><br />Scott doesn't dismiss something like Critical Theory out of hand, he just relentlessly interrogates it. ("Interrogate" ironically a term in vogue among the Critical Theory left.)<br /><br />The Rationalist Community, more than any other group - progressives, conservatives, libertarians - is obsessed with uncovering biases and data-free just-so stories. One of their most popular blogs is even called Overcoming Bias. If they've got a problem with acknowledging their conceptual infrastructure, as you put it, every other collection of ideologues is positively in a state of crisis. Dainhttp://dryhyphenolympics.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15644559.post-15359524899392187312017-08-11T00:35:01.466-07:002017-08-11T00:35:01.466-07:00“Nobody has any real policy disagreements” ...Does...“Nobody has any real policy disagreements” ...Does he think that all this conflict is over nothing...<br /><br />Well, some of us can't figure out what <i>more</i> do these "SJWs" really want. Do they want 50/50 representation of men and women in the workplace, perhaps? If yes, why and in which workplace(s)?<br />Whatever it is, it's not stated explicitly enough, but it's wrapped in vague concepts that aren't agreed upon by the general population. I don't see women and minorities marching in the streets protesting that tech companies don't want to hire them... it all seems pushed by small groups of people and disconnected from reality.<br />Meanwhile the <i>real</i> problems (those perceived and agreed upon by most people) are seemingly neglected, which just adds to the frustration.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15644559.post-7048983127503693662017-08-10T20:10:09.256-07:002017-08-10T20:10:09.256-07:00I think what I am trying to say (and I haven't...I think what I am trying to say (and I haven't articulated this in quite this way before) is that he most definitely has an ideology, and it's bad to pretend you don't have one, which is what this sort of antipolitical rationalism does. If you are interested in the broad goal of improved thinking, it's much better to acknowledge the biases, political and otherwise, of your conceptual infrastructure. <br /><br />This is not a particularly original or sophisticated insight, it's basically Critical Theory 101. It's pretty obvious that an epistemological stance which is incapable of recognizing the reality of structural racism is most definitely taking a political stance, whether it admits it or not.mtravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356162954308418556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15644559.post-596708243267850832017-08-10T16:53:07.254-07:002017-08-10T16:53:07.254-07:00"But he has ideological blind spots that seem..."But he has ideological blind spots that seem worth exploring."<br /><br />He's not nearly ideological enough, if anything, which is why he's so refreshing. Ideologues of all stripes can find plenty to dislike in him. Progressives: well that's well-covered. Libertarians: not free market enough/doesn't hate the state enough. Conservatives: don't like his weird "aspie" style and decadent promotion of drugs and poly stuff. <br /><br />There's a reason this whole Grey Tribe thing exists, to distinguish it from the more ideologically uniform Blue and Red Tribe. The fact that it's still a tribe though does suggest ideological blinders; maybe it's something like a faulty "view from nowhere" (HT Jay Rosen) or a sense that he merely splits the difference between sides and engages in false equivalence. I don't really think this applies, but I'm trying to be charitable. (The irony being that Scott also tries to be charitable, but apparently to a fault; one thing a rabid alt-righter and a SJW can agree on is that at least they know where the other stands, with no pretense to being above-it-all and with no cultural dog in the fight.)<br /><br />You're not engaging in "empty outrage." What a silly and hyperbolic charge.<br />Dainhttp://dryhyphenolympics.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15644559.post-27826419560386133212017-08-10T11:42:14.058-07:002017-08-10T11:42:14.058-07:00Sorry you feel that way, but I don't see how a...Sorry you feel that way, but I don't see how anything I write can be read as "denouncing". I've repeatedly said that Scott seems both very intelligent and very well-intentioned. But he has ideological blind spots that seem worth exploring.mtravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356162954308418556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15644559.post-14042731144778779772017-08-10T09:08:47.018-07:002017-08-10T09:08:47.018-07:00A lot of words denouncing, near zero engaging. I&#...A lot of words denouncing, near zero engaging. I'm removing you from my rss feed, I can get empty outrage from any number of outlets if I feel the need. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com