tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15644559.post2042889436865669138..comments2024-03-21T03:55:51.565-07:00Comments on Omniorthogonal: It is Forbidden to Forbidmtravenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02356162954308418556noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15644559.post-65094619979354660692012-04-07T13:51:07.887-07:002012-04-07T13:51:07.887-07:00Mondragon is a good example of a somewhat-non-capi...<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation" rel="nofollow">Mondragon</a> is a good example of a somewhat-non-capitalist enterprise existing and flourishing within capitalism (and with a touch of religion to help give it the moral coherence anonymous was alluding to). <br /><br />No doubt it popped into mind because just last night I stumbled upon a Basque Cultural Center and Restaurant hidden away in South San Francisco.mtravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356162954308418556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15644559.post-57053164710536822052012-04-06T17:20:27.496-07:002012-04-06T17:20:27.496-07:00Yeah, I wouldn't be so harsh on anti-capitalis...Yeah, I wouldn't be so harsh on anti-capitalists. Anarcho-capitalists use public roads too! AK says it practices what it preaches, their ability to do that (like the ability of kibbutzim to form) indicates to me capitalism is doing something right and such methods of organization just don't have enough appeal to displace more standard kinds of organization.TGGPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017651009634767649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15644559.post-59367468996427939422012-04-05T16:13:19.712-07:002012-04-05T16:13:19.712-07:00Re: "open collectives (where anybody can join...Re: "open collectives (where anybody can join) don't work very well; closed tightly focused groups with shared values work better."<br /><br />This dovetails with the observation that secular communism has always ended either in collapse or in tyranny, whereas religious communism (as practiced by various monastic orders, some Anabaptist and Mennonite sects, etc.) has a much more stable history. <br /><br />Keeping the community small seems also to be a key element to success. The Benedictine polity of having many independent and autonomous monasteries, or the Hutterites' practice of spinning off "daughter colonies" when the population of a colony becomes too large, are examples.<br /><br />Finally, with reference to the subject of "anarchist parenthood," perhaps the Amish custom of allowing a period of adolescent "rumspringa" (=lexical German, herumspring) before a youngster's decision to join or leave the community may shed some light. It assures that the ongoing community is made up of people who have chosen its way of life over alternatives, reflecting a perception, soundly based in experience, that compulsion is almost sure to beget strife.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com